2003/49, Iain Napier and David Hamilton interviewed in Edinburgh by Sarah Bromage on 12/8/2002
000 Mr Hamilton left school and went to lab in Kinleith. Interview and tour whetted appetite. Advert at Heriots. Mr Nelson went to the career lady at school and one of the jobs offered was a job at Inveresk Musselburgh. Mill thought he would be better working closer to home so sent him to Kinleith. First pay, there until he was 21.
051 HNC in board making and studied 3 evenings a week/ Paid to go there. No support from the mill, not compulsory. Last year of qualifications got ½ day day release.
067 5 years of ONC and 3 years of papermaking. 3 years national service and came back to Woodhall
075 Mr Hamilton at Kinleith by time Mr Napier returned. Woodhall changed purpose.
091 Built lab at Kinleith in 1957. Formal on job training. Mr H did not do papermaking qualification just did ONC. Chief chemist at Kinleith also taught at Heriot Watt.
113 Different courses and teachers. Attendance compulsory as 3 absences meant you could not sit the exam. No wage increase after qualification.
152 5 people in lab, 1 female paper tester. Pay and annual bonus.
171 Working hours and breaks.
181 Mill houses and council housing.
200 Key staff had houses tied with their jobs close to the mill.
207 Day to day testing of paper. Chemicals and boilers.
219 Water pollution Water of Leith effluent control quite good. Common sewer shared by mills. Tried to keep it clean, fishing took place. Mills guilty of putting effluent down.
243 Central lab did Research and Development. Engineering department and chemical department run by Norman Underwood.
268 Information on mills. Mr Bruce chairman of Inveresk, in mill on regular basis. Did not speak to people, commuted to London. Traveled by train, often in mill on Monday. Head office off the strand.
293 300 in the mill at that time. Paid in tin pot, collected in the Time office. Check pay and put pot down tube. If a query must still have the pot. Correcting pay and delivery of corrected pay.
328 Not paid overtime in lab. Would work it but not get paid. Testing woodpulp for moisture. Could have paid for lab from amount of money claimed back from pulp testing. If it was contested then a public analyst would be appointed.
353 Used esparto until the close of the mill. Description of railway and goods going in and out. Railway engines.
380 3 Lorries at mills. Majority went to book publishers Collins and Nelsons.
395 Family connections, then people started to travel so came from further afield. Did not socialise together.
405 Galloways annual trip would pay for. Nothing at Kinleith, barely toilet facilities.
413 Woodhall mill better social activities as it was a small mill with only 100 employees. Golfing society, fishing society and football. Mr Napier was goalkeeper. Joined Edinburgh weekend league and team moved from division 7 to division 2.
427 Mills did not inter socialise apart from bowling. Pageant; mills would give their trucks to be decorated. Pageant held June/July drove through the villages.
445 Not members of union as were staff. Union in Kinleith was optional. Got a union while he was at Galloways. Strike at Kinleith, not well paid. Printers were unionised. Papermaking union section of SOGAT. Printing strike effected papermaking as not keen to keep on producing with no market.
467 Hourly paid workers paid off, common to go on short time. Put to 3 days or 4 days. Papermaking is cyclical. Did not make for stock, made for order.
480 Asking Mr Munro to be paid for weekends, not getting it. When mill on short time would do other jobs to keep it running. Shortage of esparto so brought in woodchips.
500 Lab loose with regard to Health and Safety. Employed a Health and Safety Officer. A lot of hand and arm injuries. Dangerous industry, did not observe guarding. Several deaths in the mill. No great compensation packages.
517 Protective clothing, clothing money. Supplied own overalls. No sick pay for mill. Lab would. Pension for lab / staff but not mill workers.
531 Collection for sick. No animosity between the two, but void between staff and mill.
538 Papermill politics. List of Inveresk Mills. Not much warning mill was to close, 1 month. Government redundancy. No mill to transfer to. No idea it would close, still making profit but not enough.
560 Kinleith Mill produced steam for Kinleith. Woodhall chief chemist, built up lab quality control. 100 people in mill, ladies in the office. John Anderson replaced Mr Napier.
585 Mr Napier production manager / general manager. Galloways owned a lot of social facilities in the mill. Father worked at Galloways. 3 churches, 3 pubs and a papermill in Balerno.
621 Materials produced for samples in the mill. Mr Tweedie chief sampler in the mill. 500 pages of paper must be same thickness. Cases were made separately so the two things had come together and fit. Produced unprinted books to show publishers.
645 A lot of matching, match shade of sample to measure how much dye matching. Calculate how much you would need for 100 tonnes.
681 No large mistakes made. No major transferring. Girls in the salle. People did not like to employ male school leavers as they would lose them for national service. Not many formal apprenticeships.
708 3 shifts at Kinleith, 4 shifts at Woodhall. Galloways 4 shifts. All machines from Bertrams.
722 Paper board built up of layers. Dickinson slider multi layer board. Single wire configuration did not work. Very successful. Vale Board Mill only other one producing it.
750 Management level deal with breaks in paper. Changing from quality cause breaks in paper.
765 Problems with mills in Scotland ran on small orders were forceful enough to get printers to buy at large volumes. Changing of recipes would take material which would need to be fed up to the beginning of the process.
785 Scandinavians would make paper for stock and then sell off as and when. Galloways did this when it closed, needed 9 months to clear the stock. Would make small orders; this would upset the papermaker.
800 Taken over by East Lancs, wanted coating plant and markets. DRG took it over with coaters. Eck fly and splice coater. Poor way of coating. Changes in printing technology and changes in the way the paper is marketed.
827 Galloways made their reputation on online coating. 4 coats, 2 on each side; very slow. Off machine made paper faster and then coated it.
843 Good quality Galart on machine. Made Country Life. Galitho did not work. Tried to get the same price but had to offer it cheaper. Did not work.
857 Lack of investment in the UK. High capital investment, no return on investment. Scandinavian mills had high investment, as did Finland.
875 East Lancs had 5 machine mill in England and bought mill in Scotland.
901 Mr Galloways son in law. Milligan had to sell. As a private company the family wouldn't invest.
911 Kept staff of 10 people to get rid of stock. A lot of stock. Bad marketing.
920 Galloways invested in esparto technology. Esparto grass. Investment today. APP. Machines today. APP bankrupt.
948 Moulding in Turriff at Pelican. Labour costs low abroad. Made copying products. Mr Hamilton moved from Kinleith to Leighton in 1966.
967 Making carbon paper.
972 Worked in Fort William with Wiggins Teape. Father worked in Galloways and served his time there. Mid 1920s left and went to work with SS and K in 1940.